Thursday, August 06, 2009

Big Fish, Small Pond?

I got into an argument on Facebook the other day with some Buckeye fans. It wasn't really an argument...I voted in this online poll "Which is better, Ohio State or Michigan?" and there was an adjoining comment thread, with such witty banter from OSU fans as "App St." and "Rich Rod is a f**." Thankfully, there was actually more intelligent discussion happening as well, and I was dumb enough to give my two cents, knowing full well what little good could come of it.

It actually went fairly well. I exchanged a few comments with an OSU fan about history not really being on people's sides when they make comments that Michigan football is dead and buried based solely on the 2008 season, as if RichRod isn't eventually going to bring in his own recruits and build up his system, and based on his success despite typically poor showings his first year at each school at which he's coached.

A friend noted my comments, and made a comment of his own to me:
Michigan will come back when RR is gone and they actually hire Les Miles...RR's rise at WVU coinsided [sic] w/ the departure of Miami, Va Tech, and BC from the Big East.
Oh, really? So RichRod was merely a big fish in a small pond in the Big East, with no real big wins or competition to speak of? Let's do some detective work...

2001: 3-8. Sounds familiar.
2002: 9-4, with wins over Boston College and #13 Virginia Tech.
2003: 8-5, with wins over #3 Virginia Tech and Boston College, and shared the Big East Championship with Miami.
2004: 8-4 and shared the Big East Championship with, among others, Boston College.
2005: 11-1, Big East Champion, and beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.
2006 : 11-2, beat Georgia Tech in the Gator Bowl.
2007: 11-2, Big East Co-Champion, beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. RichRod did not coach the Fiesta Bowl, as he was on his way to Michigan at that point, but it was arguably his team that won that game.

So while WVU never beat Miami with RichRod at the helm, they did beat Virginia Tech and Boston College several times each, along with several perennial powerhouses in bowl games, and shared the Big East Championship the last two years that those three teams were a part of the conference.

It is probably worth noting that some of his early teams had a home-and-home with Wisconsin, losing both times, but that shouldn't be seen as an indication of how generally RichRod's scheme will fare in the Big Ten, especially since Michigan's improbable win over Wisconsin was one of the few bright spots of the 2008 season.

So, what have we learned here today? We've learned that the "big fish, small pond" argument is bunk. This is shown both in and out of the conference while RichRod was head coach in the Big East. Whether Michigan can bounce back this year the way WVU did in 2002 remains to be seen, but it's going to, nay, has to get better. And history shows that it will.

Go Blue.


thereverendmother said...

So what does this show? People are passionate about their teams no matter where they live and no one is going to persuade another side that the other person is talking through their hats and knows nothing. GO BLUE :-)

Scott Alan said...

Frankly, even though I'm not a fan of Michigan, I think that RR could revolutionize the entire Big 10+1 if he does well. The entire conference has slipped in recent years, if you ask me.

And having lived through the dark days that were 2001-2007 for Nebraska, let me say that I feel your pain from last year. Life does indeed go one when your favorite boys go south for a few seasons, and it makes the climb back to the top ever so much fun.